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Post by The Messiah 2030 Project on Apr 10, 2024 2:03:14 GMT
It is highly important that April 5th 30 C.E., the day of Passover is indeed a Wednesday. The Passover of Messiah’s death had to be on a Wednesday to be compatible with the scriptures in multiple ways.
After the Messiah’s death, his body was rushed to the tomb before being formally prepared for burial. He was simply wrapped, burial cloths.
We are told that the spices needed to finish the burial protocol were purchased before (Luke 24:36) AND after the Sabbath (Mark 16:1). How is this possible? It is possible because there are two Sabbaths and thus two sperate “days of preparation” that week.
The first day of Unleavened Bread, the day after the Messiah’s death is a High Sabbath (Leviticus 23) and the 7th day of the week is the regular 7th day Sabbath.
(Biblical days are evening to evening)
This means that Passover (14th day) was on Wednesday. Messiah was placed in the tomb just as it was getting dark and becoming the 15th day, Wednesday evening, the first day of the week of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath). This Sabbath continued till Thursday evening. That Friday, because it was not a Sabbath, the spices were purchased, which was before AND after a Sabbath. That Friday at night began the 7th day Sabbath. This continued until Saturday evening, which began the day of Firstfruits and is when our Messiah resurrected.
This is important, because a Wednesday death is also necessary to produce the needed three days and three nights for the “sign of Jonah.”
Matthew 12:40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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Post by glen on Apr 12, 2024 18:45:47 GMT
You seem well versed in Jewish customs and calendar. My SS teacher taught the same thing but I could never wrap my mind around it. Could you please explain to me how a day runs for a Jew, at least back then. I know their day starts at 6 pm and goes for 24 hrs till 6 pm. My question is, when is it night and when is it morning for them? Do you go from night to morning to evening? And when are the breaks, ie... when does night start and end, morning start and end, etc.
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Post by The Messiah 2030 Project on Apr 14, 2024 17:52:46 GMT
You seem well versed in Jewish customs and calendar. My SS teacher taught the same thing but I could never wrap my mind around it. Could you please explain to me how a day runs for a Jew, at least back then. I know their day starts at 6 pm and goes for 24 hrs till 6 pm. My question is, when is it night and when is it morning for them? Do you go from night to morning to evening? And when are the breaks, ie... when does night start and end, morning start and end, etc. Thanks We appreciate the question. Traditionally, a Jew would believe the next day begins when three stars can be seen in the sky. Though we have not seen an explanation as to why this is the case, we imagine it is because in Genesis 1:14 we see that the stars are the least of of all the celestial lights as a timekeeping mechanism. Since the sun is what determines a day, the sun is "defeated" when the stars can be seen (and 2-3 establishes a matter in matters of judgment), thus when the sun is defeated, a new sun cycle, and thus a new day has begun. As light leaves and night enters, a day is leavening and a new day is entering. There is not an exact moment in time, but days "blend" together or "mix" until the transition is complete. Does that help?
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Post by glen on Apr 24, 2024 23:48:14 GMT
You seem well versed in Jewish customs and calendar. My SS teacher taught the same thing but I could never wrap my mind around it. Could you please explain to me how a day runs for a Jew, at least back then. I know their day starts at 6 pm and goes for 24 hrs till 6 pm. My question is, when is it night and when is it morning for them? Do you go from night to morning to evening? And when are the breaks, ie... when does night start and end, morning start and end, etc. Thanks We appreciate the question. Traditionally, a Jew would believe the next day begins when three stars can be seen in the sky. Though we have not seen an explanation as to why this is the case, we imagine it is because in Genesis 1:14 we see that the stars are the least of of all the celestial lights as a timekeeping mechanism. Since the sun is what determines a day, the sun is "defeated" when the stars can be seen (and 2-3 establishes a matter in matters of judgment), thus when the sun is defeated, a new sun cycle, and thus a new day has begun. As light leaves and night enters, a day is leavening and a new day is entering. There is not an exact moment in time, but days "blend" together or "mix" until the transition is complete. Does that help? Sort of, but what I'm trying to do is nail it all down. Not that it really matters I guess, but I like getting things exact. So according to your statement, He was buried Wed evening, [This means that Passover (14th day) was on Wednesday, Messiah was placed in the tomb just as it was getting dark and becoming the 15th day, Wednesday evening, the first day of the week of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath).] which would lead to 4 nights in the grave, right? Wed, Thur, Fri and Sat. Or do you not count Wed night since it was at the very end of the day? That's why I was hoping to get more specific parameters, to calculate it out better. The one thing I do know for sure, He died on the cross and shed His blood for our sins, was buried and then rose again on the third day.
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Post by The Messiah 2030 Project on Apr 25, 2024 0:24:29 GMT
We appreciate the question. Traditionally, a Jew would believe the next day begins when three stars can be seen in the sky. Though we have not seen an explanation as to why this is the case, we imagine it is because in Genesis 1:14 we see that the stars are the least of of all the celestial lights as a timekeeping mechanism. Since the sun is what determines a day, the sun is "defeated" when the stars can be seen (and 2-3 establishes a matter in matters of judgment), thus when the sun is defeated, a new sun cycle, and thus a new day has begun. As light leaves and night enters, a day is leavening and a new day is entering. There is not an exact moment in time, but days "blend" together or "mix" until the transition is complete. Does that help? Sort of, but what I'm trying to do is nail it all down. Not that it really matters I guess, but I like getting things exact. So according to your statement, He was buried Wed evening, [This means that Passover (14th day) was on Wednesday, Messiah was placed in the tomb just as it was getting dark and becoming the 15th day, Wednesday evening, the first day of the week of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath).] which would lead to 4 nights in the grave, right? Wed, Thur, Fri and Sat. Or do you not count Wed night since it was at the very end of the day? That's why I was hoping to get more specific parameters, to calculate it out better. The one thing I do know for sure, He died on the cross and shed His blood for our sins, was buried and then rose again on the third day. Remove Saturday night. Messiah would have resurrected just at the start of Saturday night, which would have been the very beginning of Firstfruits, which is why Messiah is our Firstfruits and we are Firstfruits being resurrected through him. When they arrived to the tomb just before light they realized that the tomb had already been opened as it became light, meaning he already resurrected before daylight.
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Post by glen on Apr 25, 2024 18:29:45 GMT
Sort of, but what I'm trying to do is nail it all down. Not that it really matters I guess, but I like getting things exact. So according to your statement, He was buried Wed evening, [This means that Passover (14th day) was on Wednesday, Messiah was placed in the tomb just as it was getting dark and becoming the 15th day, Wednesday evening, the first day of the week of Unleavened Bread (a High Sabbath).] which would lead to 4 nights in the grave, right? Wed, Thur, Fri and Sat. Or do you not count Wed night since it was at the very end of the day? That's why I was hoping to get more specific parameters, to calculate it out better. The one thing I do know for sure, He died on the cross and shed His blood for our sins, was buried and then rose again on the third day. Remove Saturday night. Messiah would have resurrected just at the start of Saturday night, which would have been the very beginning of Firstfruits, which is why Messiah is our Firstfruits and we are Firstfruits being resurrected through him. When they arrived to the tomb just before light they realized that the tomb had already been opened as it became light, meaning he already resurrected before daylight. Gotcha. Thanks for the info
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