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Post by mikeyd on Sept 29, 2024 14:52:35 GMT
Is it messiah 2030 position that the ram in Daniel 8 has to dominate the middle east for awhile before turkey attacks Persia?
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Post by t4light on Sept 29, 2024 18:59:56 GMT
I’ve had my eye on this prophecy for the last 15 years. It’s clearly a significant starting point for the rest of the prophecies to follow on from.
1) Ram becomes great
2) great horn of the goat becomes great
3) kingdom of great horn is divided into 4, towards the “four winds of heaven”
Once the great horn is divided, it then links directly with the four beasts/kings of Daniel 7. The rest of Daniel 8 connects clearly with Daniel 7 too, but Daniel 7 offers a more detailed account.
We know Media/Persia is modern day Iran. Interestingly, Iran seems to have two leaders (supreme leader and president).
The great horn of the goat is referenced as the king of “Grecia”. I’m unsure if Turkey would play a role. We could interpret as the Greek empire with Alexander the Great but evidently the little horn did not arise following the fall of that empire…
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FX
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Post by FX on Sept 30, 2024 3:59:59 GMT
Bonjour ! This interpretation, made "popular" by Mark Davidson ( The Four Signposts) about ten years ago, sounded plausible at the time. However, in my opinion, the closer we get to 2027, the less likely this interpretation of Daniel 8 becomes. I would say this for two main reasons: Timing: With less than three years remaining until Spring 2027, there may not be enough time for all the proposed events to unfold—such as Iran attacking its neighbors in three directions, followed by Turkey counterattacking, then the rise of a new Turkey, a subsequent breakup of this new Turkey, and finally the emergence of the Antichrist. Given the limited time left, the likelihood of all these events occurring in such rapid succession seems increasingly improbable. Iran’s actual power: Iran is not as powerful as it portrays itself to be. Observing the current dynamics in the Middle East, and considering Israel's military strength, it’s clear that Iran knows any aggressive move could provoke a severe response from Israel, including strikes on their nuclear facilities. Iran is fully aware of this and likely does not want to trigger such a scenario. For this reason, I believe Iran will maintain a low profile for now, discreetly continuing to develop its nuclear capabilities. If and when they get close to having a nuclear weapon, the situation may change. However, the question remains: will Israel allow Iran to reach that point? I’d say there’s very little chance of that. So, are the events described in Daniel 8 only things of the past? It increasingly looks that way—unless they were to unfold in a very short period of time, which is still a possibility, of course! One again, time will tell.  Be blessed, FX |
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Post by mikeyd on Sept 30, 2024 14:55:38 GMT
Maybe Iran has achieved its expansion through proxies?I guess I struggle with verse 8:17 This vision is for time of the end..Does anyone know messiah 2030s position?
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