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Post by shieldsr63 on May 13, 2024 14:57:32 GMT
I have a question. I saw that you stated that the church would be protected prior to God's wrath, but Revelation 13:7 also say the the beast would make war with the saint and overcome them. How do you balance the two in your interpretation of the Rapture between the 2nd and 3rd woe if the saints? Who then is left on the earth for Christ to reign over if all believers are taken and returned 10 days later? What part of humanity is left upon the earth after the seven bowls are poured out? Something doesn't quite add up for me.
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Post by eyeswideopen on May 13, 2024 16:35:47 GMT
I have a question. I saw that you stated that the church would be protected prior to God's wrath, but Revelation 13:7 also say the the beast would make war with the saint and overcome them. How do you balance the two in your interpretation of the Rapture between the 2nd and 3rd woe if the saints? Who then is left on the earth for Christ to reign over if all believers are taken and returned 10 days later? What part of humanity is left upon the earth after the seven bowls are poured out? Something doesn't quite add up for me. If I remember correctly, during the Great Tribulation, only some of the Church will be protected, and the rest will be attacked by the Beast when he makes war with us. After the Tribulation, all of the Saints will be raptured to Heaven to enter the chambers during the wrath. Every Saint will be protected from the wrath. Even after the Wrath, there will still be some surviving non-believers.
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Post by jono on May 14, 2024 9:30:14 GMT
Thanks so much for all the videos and also these discussion boards. I have learnt so much and there is a lot I have been corrected on in my understanding of end times. I understand that believers will not be here for God's wrath and understand that we must go through the tribulation. I'm just struggling a little with the 77 Lamech prophecy (seals and trumpets). Do these both occur at the same time or during the same time period of 3.5 yrs? I'm just struggling with sequence of events, probably due to the fact that a prophecy book I read years ago (and recently reread "The Kingdom of the Beast and the End of the World" by JC Alexander, talks about the trumpets and bowls being linked, and both representing the wrath of God. The sequence of the book is Tribulation/Rapture/Wrath, but the author talks about the seals being part of the tribulation and the trumpets/bowls part of the wrath.
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Post by esemadio2024 on May 20, 2024 13:39:47 GMT
If I remember correctly, during the Great Tribulation, only some of the Church will be protected, and the rest will be attacked by the Beast when he makes war with us. After the Tribulation, all of the Saints will be raptured to Heaven to enter the chambers during the wrath. Every Saint will be protected from the wrath. Even after the Wrath, there will still be some surviving non-believers who did NOT take the Mark of the Beast.
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Post by zach on May 20, 2024 19:47:34 GMT
If I remember correctly, during the Great Tribulation, only some of the Church will be protected, and the rest will be attacked by the Beast when he makes war with us. After the Tribulation, all of the Saints will be raptured to Heaven to enter the chambers during the wrath. Every Saint will be protected from the wrath. Even after the Wrath, there will still be some surviving non-believers who did NOT take the Mark of the Beast.I believe Messiah 2030 and others hold that view. However, I don't think it has to play out that way about protecting believers from the antichrist; that part has fewer details and clarity about how it will happen. I also am starting to consider the mid-tribulation rapture view, and it's been surprisingly reasonable and easy to work out with scripture.
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Post by landregen on May 21, 2024 12:43:50 GMT
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Post by matta on May 27, 2024 4:30:51 GMT
There is more. The 77 is connected to Lamech and concludes the 3.5 years in which we are protected (Greater Exodus -> Ezekiel 20/Revelation 12/Jeremiah 16:14-15). The two wives of Lamech mean "beautiful (Adah) protection (Zillah)" and this is the time in which the "beautiful" bride of Messiah is protected for 3.5 years, ending at the 7th seal and 7th trumpet (77), connecting to Lamech. If we are protected, in revelation, it seems that there are two waves of massive deaths. Are you saying we are protected during the decrease in population by a total of 50%? 4th seal, 25% of earth is killed (75% remain) 6th trumpet 1/3 of earth is killed (66.7% remain) .75*.66 = 50% remain. At least half the earth is killed, This doesn’t include the many people who die of bitter waters during the third trumpet. Also, at the fifth trumpet, it says “When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the word of God and the testimony they had given.” Revelation 6:9 CSB It just doesn’t sound like we are protected. Please let me know what you think. Thank you!
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Post by eyeswideopen on May 27, 2024 19:11:57 GMT
Most Christians won't be protected. When Elijah calls us to go Judea, most will not have the strength and the faith to obey because calling will seem nonsensical and will go against all common sense, scientific evidence, and logic. The Christians that remain will be beheaded and slaughtered for their faith under the rule of the antichrist. Pray for strength so that you can escape. escapeallthesethings.com/strength-to-escape-explained/
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Post by mdhaller on May 30, 2024 4:28:05 GMT
I believe the 2nd Exodus occurs on Passover 2026 and the Rapture/Resurrection occurs on the Feast of Tabernacles 2029, three and one-half years later.
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Post by The Messiah 2030 Project on Jun 2, 2024 16:31:07 GMT
DID YOU KNOW?... While Messiah Yeshua said he did not know the DAY AND HOUR of his return we now know that he knew the DAY.
Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.
We reason that the Messiah must destroy the Antichrist on Yom Kippur (presumably 2030), 1290 days after the Abomination of Desolation. At that point, based on the Messiah's words, the calculation of the Abomination of Desolation is just math.
1290 days before Yom Kippur 2030 is the day of Firstfruits, which will be the FIRST day AFTER the Sabbath which is the FIRST SABBATH that is AFTER winter (see Matthew 24:20). Coincidence?
And it appears that Paul figured it out as well...
In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul talks about the revealing of the Antichrist, and then he suddenly and cleverly injects the context of Firstfruits:
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
This is important because Messiah knew that the first 3.5 years of the 70th week would conclude at his resurrection on Firstfruits, he also knew that the final 3.5 years must then resume also on Firstfruits for his second coming.
Much more to come...
Thank you to all who support and share the Messiah 2030 Project, making this work and future productions possible:
The Messiah 2030 Project Messiah2030Project.com
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Post by gentlespirit18 on Jun 2, 2024 17:16:28 GMT
DID YOU KNOW?... While Messiah Yeshua said he did not know the DAY AND HOUR of his return we now know that he knew the DAY. Matthew 24:20Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. We reason that the Messiah must destroy the Antichrist on Yom Kippur (presumably 2030), 1290 days after the Abomination of Desolation. At that point, based on the Messiah's words, the calculation of the Abomination of Desolation is just math. 1290 days before Yom Kippur 2030 is the day of Firstfruits, which will be the FIRST day AFTER the Sabbath which is the FIRST SABBATH that is AFTER winter (see Matthew 24:20). Coincidence? And it appears that Paul figured it out as well... In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul talks about the revealing of the Antichrist, and then he suddenly and cleverly injects the context of Firstfruits: 2 Thessalonians 2:13But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. This is important because Messiah knew that the first 3.5 years of the 70th week would conclude at his resurrection on Firstfruits, he also knew that the final 3.5 years must then resume also on Firstfruits for his second coming. Much more to come... Thank you to all who support and share the Messiah 2030 Project, making this work and future productions possible: The Messiah 2030 Project Messiah2030Project.com So good to see you guys weighing in again. You’ve been busy!😊 Very excited for your next presentations and materials. Mom just started watching M2030 series with me and a friend from church. She can’t stop talking about it. Your work is having a powerful impact on my traditionally Jewish mother 🥰🥰🥰
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Post by Oro y Plata on Jun 2, 2024 22:34:53 GMT
1290 days before Yom Kippur 2030 is the day of Firstfruits, which will be the FIRST day AFTER the Sabbath which is the FIRST SABBATH that is AFTER winter (see Matthew 24:20). Coincidence? Amazing revelation. Can you explain what you are using to declare the seasons? The March Equinox (aka Spring Equinox) is on Mar 20, 2027 which marks the end of winter and beginning of spring. Furthermore, According to the Hebrew calendar, Firstfruits begins sundown Saturday April 24, 2027. It is observed the day after the weekly Sabbath during the seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread (Lev 23:9-14). www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2027&country=34 Yom Kippur (also according to the Hebrew calendar) begins October 6, 2030. www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2030&country=34 Subtract 1,290 days from that equals Friday March 26, 2027, not April 24, 2027. Where does the error lie and what is the true date of Firstfruits in 2027?
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Post by Oro y Plata on Jun 16, 2024 6:28:00 GMT
First, it appears there was a typo, which is now corrected. Firstfuits, according to our calculations of the Biblical calendar, would begin the evening of 3/27/27. Can you please share your calculations for Firstfruits being on 3/27/27? By extension, this would mean Passover 2027 is on 3/24. Passover is on the 14th day of the first month (Exo 12). This would mean a full moon on Passover. Do I have that correct? But there is no full moon on 3/24. www.timeanddate.com/calendar/custom.html?year=2027&month=3&country=34&cols=1&display=1&df=1Furthermore, this would place the Second Passover (Num 9) on 4/21. 4/21 is what the Hebrew calendar has as the First Passover (or simply Passover), in which there is a full moon. www.timeanddate.com/calendar/custom.html?year=2027&month=4&country=34&cols=1&display=1&df=1Why is your calculation seemingly 30 days ahead of the Hebrew calendar in 2027, but in agreement for the Fall Moedim in 2030?
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Post by lucasr on Jun 25, 2024 1:36:57 GMT
3/27/27 is the Saturday evening before “Easter Sunday” March 28/2027 when British Summer time begins. The Word ‘abomination’ tells us that which desolates (lays waste the minds and hearts of unbelievers ) will be “that which is highly esteemed among men - which is an abomination to God.” Luke 16:15 paraphrased. I am constantly observing, and correcting in comments on Facebook posts quotes saying “Jesus (or ‘Christ’) is coming.” - He is not! Jesus is coming back. Christ is returning “in the same manner that he departed.” When the Antichrist stands up, - it will be amazingly arrogant to do it on Easter Sunday - will folk state “so this is who they were expecting !”
It is essential we are bold and specific. I am thankful that the Messiah 2030 team have compiled an extremely scripturally accurate overview which enables us “to instruct many.”
Since discovering Daniel 52 years ago when I forsook all to follow Jesus after a few years in sleepy churchianity after being born again at 13, I have taught that Matthew 24:15 was specifically given to us, God’s children in these last days who excitedly ask “are we nearly there yet.” Like being on a journey and reaching a “major junction” which not only confirms the time and keeps us holding onto the Sword, the Word,- beautifully capitalised in John 1:1 by John because of Rev 19:13, but tells us that our destination is assuredly not far away.u “Thy Word have I hid in mine heart that I might not sin against thee.” The verses I have memorised can now be held together for easy sharing with babes in Christ with the wonderful timeline illustrations that Messiah 2030 blesses us with. Those who who have had their senses exercised as according to Luke 5:14 “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” These days I share that Jesus’s instruction to us the readers is to understand (put two and two together) when we “see the AoD …” and to act fearlessly and calmly, knowing that God will as always provide, the evil of days ahead will take care of itself, keeping the younger ones focused on the exciting aspects of the journey."
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Post by cb on Jul 29, 2024 19:30:09 GMT
How ezequiel 38 fits in the timelineof messiah 2030?
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